# Checking never expire in s3 source settings doesnt work

**URL:** <https://community.dremio.com/t/checking-never-expire-in-s3-source-settings-doesnt-work/4713>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [December 6, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.dremio.com/t/checking-never-expire-in-s3-source-settings-doesnt-work/4713 "2019-12-06T19:23:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![kprifogle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.dremio.com/kprifogle/32/1719_2.png) [@kprifogle](https://community.dremio.com/u/kprifogle)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2019, 7:23pm UTC](https://community.dremio.com/t/checking-never-expire-in-s3-source-settings-doesnt-work/4713/1 "2019-12-06T19:23:20Z")

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I checked never expire (but didn’t change the default of 3 hours for expireation)  
And then I changed refresh frequency to 9 hours.

What this resulted in is when new sources were created that had 3 hour expiration and 9 hour refresh frequency. This was causing sources built with default settings to expire before they were refreshed.

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**Author:** ![balaji.ramaswamy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.dremio.com/balaji.ramaswamy/32/843_2.png) [@balaji.ramaswamy](https://community.dremio.com/u/balaji.ramaswamy)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://community.dremio.com/t/checking-never-expire-in-s3-source-settings-doesnt-work/4713/2 "2019-12-07T18:44:51Z")

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@kprifogle

The “never refresh” and "never expire only work for default settings. So your screen should look like below

 ![default-settings](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/dremio/original/2X/c/c84fa93821c89813b7709535c8ff8ccfe2db67a5.png)

If any of these values have changed, the 2 checkboxes would not work

Thanks  
@balaji.ramaswamy

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**Author:** ![kprifogle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/community.dremio.com/kprifogle/32/1719_2.png) [@kprifogle](https://community.dremio.com/u/kprifogle)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2019, 2:08am UTC](https://community.dremio.com/t/checking-never-expire-in-s3-source-settings-doesnt-work/4713/3 "2019-12-09T02:08:06Z")

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Are you saying different from the configured default for the source or different from some other default?